After two defeats in two of the top 14 matches, Clermont and La Rochel will face each other this Saturday. A meeting marking the reunion between New Zealand coach Jonah Gibbs and his former Irish student Ronan Ogara, who left La Rochelle, was elevated to his position: What effect? It was a start to the championship, with the last two finalists losing in the top 14, and each time Stade Toulouse lost, it would have gone well. La Rochelle fell against the same Toulouse, then Racing 92 Clermont put his feet on the carpet in Lyon, then against Castro at home : How to explain these difficult beginnings on both sides? Read more Julian Dumora invented the counter-drop The numbers have not changed much and the changes should be monitored mainly on the bench side. Jonah Gibbs became the head of ASM, succeeding Frank Azema Ship from La Rochelle to Ronan Ogara. Both respect and honor each other. So what is to be expected from this convergence where success is inevitable? What is their project at the head of the two clubs? Animated by Clement Dosin, With Aurelian Boise, Adrian Korea And Jan Sternis. Achieved Antoine Borlon. Read more Find all episodes of L’Équipe’s rugby podcast Crunch Read more Subscribe to Apple Podcasts Read more Subscribe to Google Podcasts Read more Find all episodes of Crunch on Spotify Read more Find all episodes of Crunch in the teaser